Wednesday, January 17, 2007

Dating...Whats the big deal?


Dating - What's Too Far?
In today’s culture it often seems as though dating has become more of a common past-time and less a search for a suitable marriage partner. Because of this, along with the general decline of moral standards in society, it is often the case that unmarried couples become so physically involved with one another that they can no longer clearly see what is appropriate and modest behavior before God. This is unfortunate, because it is difficult to discern a life-long marriage partner when the eyes of the couple are clouded by uncontrolled sexual passions and desires.
Among dating couples who do desire to live in the grace of God, some of the common questions asked are, “What are we allowed to do?” “Have we gone too far?” “Have we sinned?”
There are some general rules that unmarried couples should abide by in order to foster the virtues of chastity, charity and self-control in the relationship so that the couple can truly come to know one another and God’s Will for them.
First of all, we must look at the actions of the couple itself:
There are two very different kinds of actions.
Directly Stimulating Actions:
The first is the action that is, by its very nature, so closely related to the sexual desires that they serve no other purpose except to stimulate and arouse the persons involved. Some examples of these would be: prolonged and passionate kissing, impure embracing or petting, and sexual intercourse.
These actions are always gravely wrong between unmarried people, and no “good intention” can ever make them right. If the action is committed intentionally and with sufficient reflection, then it is a mortal sin.
If there is no reflection, as can happen sometimes when an impure action occurs without any forethought or intention at all, one does not sin mortally. However, it does not change the fact that the act itself was gravely wrong and one should be very careful not to let it happen again.
Indirectly Stimulating Actions:
The second kind of action is anything that is in and of itself morally good or neutral, which does not have as its sole purpose the stimulation of the sexual passions. Some examples of these would be: dancing with a boyfriend/girlfriend, holding hands, kissing, affectionate or friendly embracing.
While these acts are good or neutral in and of themselves and serve another purpose entirely, they can still have the effect of causing one to become aroused.
Is this then sinful?
For every person, the answer can be different, according to his or her intent for doing the action.
Impure Intent:
Any boy who has the intention of dancing with a girl in order to become aroused, or in order to arouse her, has already sinned against chastity and charity even though the dance itself might have been morally neutral. His intent was impure.
Another example would be if that same boy found that while affectionately embracing his girlfriend he became aroused, and he continued to embrace her with the intent of further arousing himself or arousing her, even though the embrace itself was nothing at all impure.
Pure Intent :
The boy who modestly kisses a girl and becomes aroused, but does not intend the arousal has not sinned even venially. Nor does he sin if he remains aroused, but does not will or desire the arousal.
However, as soon as he begins to enjoy the arousal or desire it, then it is time to stop whatever action is causing the arousal, even if it is a morally good or neutral action. To continue would be to commit sin.
Near Occasions of Sin:

Since people are different, different things can be for them near occasions of sin. By near occasion of sin we mean anything that “sets the stage” TO sin. For example, a couple may know from experience that every time they sit alone in the dark watching movies, the situation between them almost always tends to “go too far.” For the sake of their souls then, it would be prudent for them to watch movies with the lights on, or with other friends in the room.
What if they continue doing what they know causes them to sin gravely? Then that too would be sinful, since intentionally putting oneself in an occasion of sin is a sign that one is willing to flirt with disaster—one is willing to sin, if it “just happens.”
There are three basic things to keep in mind while dating:
  • Never seek out anything solely for the pleasure it brings to us. To do these would be a violation of chastity because we lack control of our sexual desires and appetites, and a violation of charity because we see the other person as an object to our pleasure.
  • Never desire to sin or lead another into sin; this includes near occasions of sin.
  • Realize that your boyfriend or your girlfriend is neither a past-time nor a sport—he or she is a child of God worthy of your love and respect. It is a terrible situation when we ourselves fall into mortal sin, but when we have the soul of another in our hands, we must be equally careful not to lead them into sin.

After reading this view on Dating I want you to write a reflection on what you think of the views presented here.

If you agree with what is being presented, share why you believe that the view is something you would be able to agree with.

If you disagree, with what is being presented, share why you believe that this view is something you disagree with.

For either choice, support your view. Make me agree with you!

14 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow..the first to blog. this is great. haha umm ok
i believe that sometimes people take it too far, like dating or 'hooking up' is all just for fun and there is no commitment. I find it disgusting because there is no security and its like you dont honor yourself enough to set standards for who will have your body..(your husband).

1/17/2007 9:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoa! That's crazy!
hahaha...i didn't know holding hands could be that bad. after reading this i feel like a "humungo" sinner. Like I just reached "the point of no return" Now I'm trying to keep track of what I do and what the intentions are. But sometimes things just happen, we don't mean for it to go that way, but then it does. Some people catch themselves while others don't. Oh yeah. and after reading the first half of this i thought, "If you can't do any of that stuff, what can you do together that will make the two of you stand out as a couple instead of just another one of the 'buddies'?"

If I agreed with some of this stuff then that would make me a hypocrite.
But I do agree that dating should help people to find their "suitable marriage partner", but i don't agree with those that say you can only date the one you plan on marrying. How else will you find out who that person is if you don't go out there and "experiment". You know, find out what you like and what you don't. And also to learn from our mistakes and how to handle certain situations. I say...date who you want, Just keep it clean! =)

1/17/2007 9:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i do agree to the views that were presented here. If i did not take theology IV, i wouldnt know that every little thing that you do with your partner, without the right intention, is wrong. There's so much temptations when two people are dating. But we have to remember to honor each other. I'm not saying that dating is wrong. You just got to have the right intentions.

1/18/2007 11:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think in todays society its hard for young adults to follow the catholic way of saving yourself until marriage. I mean with tv becoming more graphic and the internet becoming more free, their so much influence to young daters. I think that their is no problem dating but as long as you don't go to far. Especially after the first couple dates, because then thats kindof sick. If i think your going to date and you want to be serious then you should at least honestly try to save yourself until both you and your partner get married.

1/19/2007 1:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That was an eye opener...I didn't know that doing just the little things can be just wrong.

No one wants to commite any sins against God or their faith, but not sinning is like not being to human. True, that some people take dancing, kissing ,and touching way to far,but things do tend to lead up to one thing or another. I'm not saying that its all okay...I just think that when couples get together its up to them to keep each other in line. To be open to draw the line when things get to much, when you feel like your going to commite something you may regret and never forget.

I fully agree with Nicole on her second paragraph. Dating should be like an experiment to find who the right person is in your life, who you want to spend the rest of your days with. But it should not be a game,no one-night-stands, and no side street picking. True it might be fun for some people but if you really look at it then you'll realize what you should do, what you shouldn't do, and what your suppose to do.

1/19/2007 7:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the opportunity presents itself many people will act on it.

ONE SIDE
That being said, Teens will continue to sin due to past influence or current influence from peers. The power of suggestion is a great thing. If it sounds good to one person then it must sound good to everyone else, so one person could be responsible for all people's damnation. Sex as part of dating shouldn't be the way. It is wrong but what can we do to stop it? It happens all the time. Moral standards have begun to decline and gratification is on the rise.

THE OTHER DUDE
As we all know those who have dated in this day and age have done all those things that we shouldn't have, some more so than others, but the deed and the intention of sexual intercourse is always there. Society does not say that sex is wrong until you are married, but they say safe sex is better. That statement does not hinder anyone from waiting until the holy sacrament instead it just allows us to practice having sex without contracting any STD's. In a world where expression is key in a person's life. People have to express themselves through clothing, art, and music, so in this generation of expression we like to express everything including love. In our minds we think "Is there any better way to express love than through sex?" Of course we think No! It's the ultimate deed to do! It's exhilerating! It's pleasurable!
And in a highly influential mind, stamp pleasurable on an item or act, we'll be after it every chance we get.

I am a Hypocrite.

1/20/2007 9:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do agree with what has been presented... but with the type of society that we have today, its not really showing us the proper way we should date. there is so much temptation when your on a date, many couples take it too far without commitment. but there are those couples who go too far and are commited but not married. i know thats still a sin but we are only human.
everyone makes mistakes but we can always make it right with our partners BY GETTING MARRIED! until then society is playing a big role in our dating life and its our choice whether we want to continue commiting the sin or if we want to make it right.

1/20/2007 1:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with some of the things and I also disagree with some of them. I agree with the fact that dating is very common today...I guess it's how a couple gets to know each other. I think that the part about impure intent was very good because many males today trest women as if they were objects and I think that it's just wrong but at the some time the female needs to be able to not let any male treat her as if she were an object or a tease know what I'm say'n. I didn't really like the part about unmarried couples...I know it's wrong to have sex before your married but I have an aunt who is not married and she has two children and I see the love that her and my uncle have for their children and it's truly unconditional but it's still does not change the fact that they committed a sin I'm a little confused on this part because I see some married couples who don't even really care about their kids oh well whatever at least I did the blog LOL.

1/21/2007 2:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i cant agree completly with the views because then i would be a hypocrite. but i do think that now a days teenagers tend to take things to far. like they think its not a big deal to hook up with people, but it is. because it just shows other people that you dont respect yourself, so others will start to disrepect you. i think its okay to date but also important to save yourself for your husband and not to take things too far.

1/21/2007 4:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i do agree with the facts that is being placed here about dating. dating is very common in my society right now. being a highschool senior, there are many temptations placed on me when i go to parties and to outings with friends. i know that when we are in relationships now all of our intentions as a couple might not always be right, but at least we know that is not right and we can confess to it.with the things that i have just sai, all guys still need to treat women with the utmost respacet and honor.

1/21/2007 10:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoa sir this is a crazy one. this was long and confusing in some areas.
I feel that now a days dating is just something to do and for others they do seek the comforting of another person. ALthough it seems that in todays society its ok to just go out have sex and then do the same thing then next night with another person.
I do agree with this though! i feel that if people feel that something is going to arouse the couple they should stay clear of it or try harder to control their emotions because if they dont they are just setting themselves up for sin.
I do feel that if a boy dances with a girl to get aroussed is a sin because he came with the intention to be aroused and possiblu cause the other party ot be aroused.

1/22/2007 8:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW!!! OK, LEMME CLEAR MY THROAT 1ST!...Hmmmm....!
I have to admit that this blog or post, however, was an awesome arguement about relationships! I do agree that people take their relationships "too far" sometimes! I know the majority of us do get affectionate with their other half and get aroused and keep on doing what they're doing cuz it feels good to them!
This leaves me to think that I cannot be affectionate with anyone now! Honestly! If this is ALL true about how if we do these things cause us to sin then I'm going to be honest and state that I have sinned a lot! I had no idea that that just the simplest thing is "sin"!
This makes me feel like I am no good anymore if all those little things I've done were sinning!
UGH...I feel so low right now!
Sometimes I do catch myself saying no in my head because I think the actions I'm taking upon myself and that other person is "wrong" so I just do stop! IDK...I really need to put things in perspective now!
Thanx for the blog Sir...really got me thinking twice! =D
P.S. This makes me think that I cant do ANYTHING on a date or in a relationship in general...LoL!!!

-Nanners

1/23/2007 8:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i agree with the views here. everyone has their own opinions and beliefs, but what is being said here really makes sense. sexual stuff should be saved for your significant other.people fall in love and will automatically give themselves up to that person, but the right thing to do is save yourself for "the one." if you have respect for your body than your boyfriend/girlfriend will too.

1/23/2007 9:18 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

i think that yes everyone has their own view, and i agree with these views in the way that girls/boys should respect themselves.like people should set standards and learn to respect themselves so they can receive the same respect in return.in our society today guys are corrupted by all the media around them, and this distorts their way of handling girls.i think it's okay to date, but we just have to know our limits.

1/28/2007 7:32 PM  

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